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| Shamrock |
 Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:31 am |
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Howdy Y'all,
Just wanted to let the AHL poker community know that there is a group of us (13 in all) heading out to Vegas to play in the WSOP Event #28. It's a $1,500 Buy-In No Limit Hold'em Bracelet Event. Most of us who are going, met playing in that other league (brand X) that Adam ran out of town. And now when we play "free" poker, we play only AHL. We play most often at Varsity Club, but some of us can be seen at various other venues from time to time. We're hoping to represent AHL well, and bring home some cash. Or at the very least share some fun and interesting stories, so that those who go out there in the future can learn from our mistakes.
Anyone who wants to can follow our exploits on my blog at http://pokeroutlaws.blogspot.com/ |
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| Shamrock |
| Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:15 am |
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Well Saturday was a hell of a day. We started at noon and wrapped up at about 1:30AM. Pinky and I are still in it. We both sit on above average stacks.
2,638 players started out yesterday. We're down to 327. 270 get paid. We need to fade 57 more players.
Cards will be in the air today at 2 PM PDT. Doris has 39,600 and will be the third biggest stack at her table. I'm at 47,500 and will be the third biggest stack at my table.
It's been an amazing experience. I'm sure I'll write a pretty detailed trip report at some point in time, but right now it's time to just hang out and relax before we go play again,
I'll be tweeting updates to my blog at breaks. www.pokeroutlaws.blogspot.com |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:42 am |
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Wondering how it worked out?
Hope you made the money  |
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| Shamrock |
| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:54 am |
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well, lets see ...Doris rocked a short stack for hours and hours and got 74th. A nifty $5,293 payday.
And I'm still in it as we head to Day 3 with a restart of the final 3 tables at 1pm PDT. Ive got 345,000 in chips and am at the table with the 2 big stacks (each around 1 Million). With 27 players left I'm 15th in chips.
We'll see how it goes. |
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| Azreal |
| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:45 am |
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go shamrock go! god i gotta get out and play some casino tourneys again. stupid school taking all my time 
oh yeah.... you wearing an AHL hat? lol |
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| Gonzo007 |
| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:01 pm |
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That's incredible. Nice payday for sure.
When we were there last week I was playing with a guy that took 11th in a 1K NLHE event and he took home a great payday.
Keep on keepin' on man. Great job. |
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| Shamrock |
| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:40 pm |
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out 21st when my i pushed with 88 against AK. One player folded AQ, so I was slightly better off than a coin flip. Flop came AKx to put me way behind. I turned a flush draw and needed a 8 or spade on the river, but no dice.
We are partying hearty in Sin City tonight!!!!
see y;all soon...and thanks to those who sweated me from 1,000 miles away. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:04 am |
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| Big congratulations to both of you!!! Top .8% of over 2600 entrants is one hell of a result. Not a bad payout on 1500$ buy-in either. |
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| ckrex |
| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:49 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:52 pm |
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Hey could you give me a list of all who entered, how they placed and winnings?
I want to do a news post about your trip and feature it on the homepage
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| Shamrock |
| Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:48 am |
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Vegas Recap
Merlotgirl and I arrived home from Vegas today. It was a truly amazing experience that I'll try to recap on the blog, and then post to the AHL website.
I won't be able to tell all of the stories. People went and did their own thing a lot, and we'll just have to ask them to recount their experiences.
The Participants
Jim Coyle
Dori Coyle
Kevin Artman
Michelle Artman
Kurt Dohmann
Gail Dohmann
Doris Wagner
Mickey Preseisen
Janette Brown
Rob Watkins
Glenda Maddox
Kim Hartley
Gary Hartley
Also present were little Cade Hartley (watch out for him in the 2030 WSOP) and Kim's sister Andie, who watched Cade.
ARRIVAL DAY
Everyone arrived at different times throughout the week. When Dori and I and the Dohmann's got there Friday we decided to get our seat assignment for the tournament the next day. I'm glad we did. The scene there is Poker Disney World. There were 2 Final Tables going on, another tournament in full swing, and the restart of Day 2 for another tournament. Throw on top of that the daily 2:00 PM Bracelet ceremony. It was definitely the center of the poker universe.
To anyone playing in a future event, I highly recommend getting there a day early so you can get the star gazing out of your system early. We spot Gavin Smith immediately. Then at the table next to him is Phil Ivey, and Sean Sheikhan (Sheiky). Dori almost runs over Daniel Negreneau.
We wander around for a while and get some autographs for my hat. John Juanda, Svetlana Gromenkova are the first two we get. Plenty more to come.
The entire group went out to dinner that night at Battista's Hole in the Wall. It's a neat little Italian eatery behind Bally's. We enjoyed the great food and the free wine. Made some friends from Montana and sang along with the accordion player who played "Take me out to the Ballgame".
After that it was time to get to bed and get some rest before Day One of Event #28.
DAY ONE
Dori and I started the day with Room Service as we slowly got ready to play. Several of us then went to the Artman's room for some Yoga with Michelle. It was a great way to get ourselves ready for what hopefully will be a long day.
I get to my table about 15 minutes early and get situated. I'm at Table 158 in the Brasilia Room. Since they are expecting in the neighborhood of 2,700 players they use the Amazon, Brasilia and Miranda Rooms. The room starts to fill up with players and spectators alike. It's quite a scene. My first goal of the day is to make it out of my room. They are breaking tables into the Amazon Room.
As I sit there playing the third or fourth hand I look up to see David and Kelley from Varsity Club watching the table. They were there to see how we were doing. So a huge shout out to them for cheering us on. The first hand I win is with the 6d 7d. It's folded to me in the cutoff. I limp. SB completes and BB checks. Flop comes up 2 9 A. It checks to me. I bet 160 and they fold. Cool. I win my first hand at the WSOP and it's a bluff.
Blind levels are 60 minutes long, so there's plenty of time to just be patient and let others make mistakes. I run into a case of the second best hand syndrome, and go into the first break (every 2 blind levels) with only 1,700 in chips. At this point Doris has already doubled up and is sitting on 9,000.
We go back and blinds are 75 /150. With 11x BB's I'm pretty much in Push / Fold territory. I win a couple pots when I push with AJ, and KQ and get no callers. Now I have enough chips to go back to playing poker. Player to my right raises to 450. I reraise to 1,100 and player in the small blind pushes all in and has me covered. Player to my right folds QQ. I call, and am thrilled to see him turn over AQ. A K on the flop. And he's drawing dead. I'm doubled up.
During this blind level Dori gets moved to the table right next to mine. In fact she sits in the seat with her back to my back. It seems Bernard Grospelier "Elky" had busted out of that seat. Yes, the Elky who is leading pokerdom in POY points.
By the time we get to the second break I am no longer on life support. Doris is playing fantastic and is up to 26,000 and I'm out of the woods and well above average with 14,000.
I meet my first goal as we get our table moved in tact to the Amazon room. I'd hate to break this table up as I've got pretty good reads on some of the players, and my table image is set. When you play very few hands, you get respect when you raise. And that's what my image is.
When we get to Dinner break after 6 blind levels, there are only 3 of us left. Doris leading the way with 30,000. Me close behind with 28.000 and Mickey hanging in with 7,000. There are 846 left and average stack is 14,000. Doris and I are comfortably above average and Mickey is in push / fold mode.
By the time we go to our next break after 8 levels, it's down to Doris and I. Seconds before, Dori awarded Mickey with the $1100 "last man standing - not in the money" prize pool. Go Nannuck! So, Doris has 53,000 and I'm sitting on 26,000. We're still well above average stacks.
We're going to play 10 levels tonight, unless we can get down to the final 279 (which is the money). If it looks close we'll start another level. As luck would have it we don't get there that night. We end the night after 10 blind levels. 335 players left including Doris with 48,000 and me with 40,000.
Time for bed and to try and sleep before we kick it off again at 2:00 tomorrow.
It's one hell of a great time to make it to day 2 of a WSOP event. 2,638 players started, including some of the greatest players in the world (Ivan Demidov, David Levy, David "The Maven" Chicotsky. Brett Jungblut, Hevad Kahn, Thor Hansen, Liv Boeree, Pam Brunson, Jerry Buss, Svetlana Gromenkova, Allen Kessler, Thayer Rasmussen. Neil Channing, Humberto Brenes, Tom McEvoy, Maarco Johnson (who I predict will win a bracelet soon), JC Tran, Dennis Phillips, Ylon Scwartz, Amarillo Slim, Jason Mercier, etc...)
TO BE CONTINUED....... |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:36 pm |
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Part 2
After playing from Noon until 1:30am Merlot, myself, Pinkie and Nannuck go to the IBar for a nightcap. There won't be much good sleep tonight. The adrenaline high from playing all day fades slowly. I sleep restlessly, and get up early. I read the WSOP recap and blog a bit. Room Service and hanging out until we restart at 2pm.
I begin the day with a very comfortable stack of 48K. My plan is to stay out of trouble until we fade the 57 players we need to, to get in the money. Once we get close to the bubble we play hand for hand. When a hand is finished at a table the dealer has to stand up. When all the dealers are standing, and we haven't lost anyone...they sit and deal the next hand. We only played hand for hand for a few hands. Once the bubble broke everyone cheered, and people started dropping right and left. When it burst, there was a player at the table next to me with 400 in chips. With 200 ante's he could only survive 2 more hands. He hung on to cash. We all congratulated him.
By now we were all in the Amazon Room. Merlotgirl and Nannuck were able to pull up chairs right outside the ropes where my table was. I was in seat 5, directly in front of the dealer, and Merlot and Nannuck were about 10 feet to my right.
The 1 (Norwegian Kid), 2 (Mats Gavatin)and 3 seats at my table were involved in an awful lot of pots. I survived by playing tight and picking my spots. Slowly my stack continued to grow. After a while Marco "Crazy Marco" Johnson gets moved to my table in seat 8 (at this point he is one of the chip leaders). Immediately to my left is Team Ultimatebet Pro Liv Boeree, and the eventual bracelet winner Mike Eise is in seat 7.
My three most memorable hands occur at this table. The first one requires a little back story. After Marco Johnson got to our table with a big stack he was using his stack liberally. One time in particular he reraised a player. When the player in seat 3 woke up with AA he pushed all in and Marco was forced to call. He tabled 6h 8h. Flopped an open ended str8 flush draw. Hit the flush on the turn...and the str8 flush on the river. This was the first hand we had seen him showdown. Several times before that I had called a standard raise with a pocket pair, hoping to see a flop, only to have Marco re-raise overbet significantly. We're down to 80 players or so and I call a standard raise with 88. Marco makes it significantly more than that on a overbet re-raise, and I decide I'll go with 88. He insta calls with KK...and I'm all but out of the Event. As the dealer places the burn card and stacks the flop before laying it out...Merlot can see before anyone else that the window card is an 8...and she almost passes out with a gasp. Marco doesn't improve and I dodge a huge bullet and suck out for the first and only time of the tournament.
After that hand I'm comfortably sitting on about 190K. And this hand happens. I have As Qs in middle position. Seat 1 raises...as he did about every third hand. I flat as does Mike Eise. Flop comes with 2 spades ...seat 1 checks...we both check behind. K of spades on the turn. Seat 1 bets. I raise 2 and a half times his bet. Mike Eise reraises me another 25K. I reraise all in and he tanks for a bit...and then folds. This hand gets me to around 270K.
Over several hours a couple hands had folded to me in the SB to find me holding 55 and 66. With Liv Boeree in the BB, I raised each time. The first time she pushed all in over the top...and I folded. The second time she did the same thing over my c-bet on the flop...and I folded even though I thougth I may have had her beat. I thought I would use her aggression against her in a better spot. I only had to wait about a half hour longer. I was in MP and looked at the red Aces. I raised 3x. Liv Boeree pushed allin over the top, everyone folded...and I insta call. She sees my AA and mutters "shit" as her AQ is way behind. With an A on the flop and no Q she's drawing dead. Third times the charm. That's the first pro I've ever knocked out that I'm aware of. Here's what Poker News, Bluff and the WSOP site had to say about that hand:
Boeree Busto
We quickly ran over to find Liv Boeree packing up her belongings. The outcome . . . she was all in preflop holding Ac Qc against Ad Ah and the board of As 9d 7h 5d Js would see her vacate the tournament floor for a nice $7,237 payday.
Adding Liv's stack to mine put me at about 370K. We played until 3Am and I survived the day with 345K. When we got down to the final 27 players we redrew for seats to play out the remaining 5 minutes of blind level 20. I once again drew the 5 seat. Mike Eise in the 6 Seat. Marco Johnson in the 4 Seat. The 2 chip leaders of the tournament Jason "JP OSU" Potter in the 9 seat and Joe Simmons in the 1 seat. Each with about 1 million. We played two hands in that 5 minutes. Both hands pitted Potter agaisnt Simmons. The first hand Simmons bluffed Potter on the turn and showed it. The next hand he bet Potter out of the hand on the turn as well. As we were bagging and tagging our chips Jason said "Hard to imagine being on tilt with almost a million chips, but i think I am".
For I don't know how long Nannuck, Pinkie, Counting Girl, Buck, Cupcake and Yogi with appearances from Kim and Gary, and Glenda, helped Dori sweat me until 3 AM. Even a couple I used to play with at The Abbey came by to lend support. It's pretty cool, and shows what an amazing group of friends we hang out with. I can't thank them enough. While I definitely want to be going deep again next year, if not, I sure want to be sweating several of them.
Also a huge thank you to those who sweated from afar. Leo, Frank and Judy, J-Mo, Erica Pam and J Man.
Which brings me to Merlotgirl. I don't think it's enough for me to say she's perfect for me in every way. Physically, emotionally, intellectually, competitively, and any other words you can think of that end in ly. She's also made my poker game a whole lot better. You're the best Pook. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:11 pm |
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If I thought sleeping after Day 1 was difficult, then sleeping after the completion of Day 2 was totally impossible. I tried and tried, and I'm sure I managed to drift off for a nap every once in a while, but there would be no good sleep this night. Once it was daybreak I got online and checked the seating assignments and chip stacks. It turns out I was aobut where I thought I would be 15th in chips with 27 to go.
I checked Poker Pages to get some insight into the players at my table, and then noted that Leo had already provided me a pretty good rundown of several of them. It was going to be a tough day for sure.
We repeated the room service and hanging out in the room start to the day. We got down to the Amazon Room about a half hour early. Just hung around by where the final table would be.
Sat down about 10 minutes before the start of Day 3 and unbagged and stacked my chips. The day started with me winning a couple small pots unchallenged. Typically we were seeing a raise and everyone folding, or a raise and a reraise / push and folding around. There were some really dubious calls of all ins. I wasn't invovled in any.
One memorable hand had me sitting in the BB with 8d 9d. It folded to Marco Johnson in the SB, who completed. The flop was 7d Td Js. Nice. I flop the nut str8 with an open ended str8 flush redraw. Marco made a min bet of 16K. I raised to 51K. Marco folded. In retrospect I may have played this hand too fast, and could have gotten more value by flatting the flop bet, and inducing a bet on the turn.
Joe Simmons who started the day as chip leader went card dead and didn't drag a pot through the first blind level. In fact, early in the second blind level he was sitting in the BB, and it folded around to the small blind (Jason Potter) who thought about raising, and then laid it down. Joe Simmons turned over KK and was apparently on "walk tilt".
Mike Eise is to my immediate left and is getting hit in the head with the deck. He's showing down monster hand after monster hand, and had more than tripled up to take the chip lead with 1.3 million, before my last hand.
With blinds of 10K / 20K and ante's of 3k I have 265K left. I'm in the BB and look down at 88. Joe Simmons raises under the gun to 55K. I reraise all in and get snap called by Mike Eise. Joe Simmons goes in the tank for a bit, and then folds AQ. I've got my money in good against Mike's AK. I was a 55 / 45 favorite preflop. Way behind on the flop of 4s As Kc. I picked up a flush draw on the turn to improve my odds to 23 / 77. No spade or 8 on the river, and I'm done.
I stood up and worked my way around the table congratulating all of the players. I waited for the floorman to give me my payout information. As I leave the area the One Outers and the folks following Mike Eiese are all congratulating me. It was a truly, truly awesome feeling. Somehow I managed to not break down in tears, although I was close.
We go to the payout area and it takes a while for us to go through the process. After we get paid out we head over for beer and appetizers at McFadden's Irish Pub. It was great to celebrate with everyone who made the trip. We then headedout to the pool for a dip before going to a great steak dinner that night at Voodoo Steak and Lounge at the top of the RIO.
I've played in only a handful of tournaments with a buy-in over $300, and managed to do well in most of them. Of the 7 tournaments that fit into this category, I've got this 21st place cash, a 9th place cash in Tulsa, a 2nd place cash at Choctaw, a 20th place cash at Winstar, and bubbled out of another Choctaw deepstack tournament. What I've learned about myself is this...I'm definitely a better tournament player than cash player, and the better the blind structure, the more it suits my play. What I've derived from this is that everyone plays the game differently. Everyone's A game is different. If I play my A game, which is tight and aggressive, as well as I can play it, I can do well. If I try to play someone elses style, say LAGgy, I'll never do as well as them. I need to stay in my comfort zone and play the game as well as I can play it. My style won't work for others who are Loose and Aggressive. But if they play their style, they'll be successful. So if I were to give anyone any advice I'd say explore everything, know the theory behind every action, never stop learning, but find the way you are most comfortable playing, and concentrate on playing that A game. And then I'll repeat what Tommy Angelo inscribed in my copy of The Elements of Poker. "You must be good at losing to be a good poker player".
Every professional player we asked for autographs was extremely gracious and willing. From John Juanda on his way to a final table, to Amarillo Slim to Marcel Luske who even had his handler take a group picture of all of us as he signed all of our baseball caps. I did not see one display of poor sportsmanship, no matter how bad a beat someone was handed. People who play AHL and other free leagues should go the the WSOP and see how true poker players handle themselves, and many would be ashamed of how they react after being beaten. It was a revelation. Act like you've been there before. Know how to react when you lose...because you will lose far more often than you win. Be a poker player.
For pictures from the trip you can go to:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shamrockmerlot/ |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:24 pm |
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I like reading your tournament posts man. Give the highlights and the low-lights and i don't have to take a bathroom break to get to the end.
I say again... I'm jealous, and envious, and a big congratulations to the entire crew. I would love to have enough time to play enough and be confident in putting up that kind of money on a poker tournament. Hope you got some fun stuff planned with your little payday.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:27 am |
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Glad you enjoy them Sean. I write to hopefully get the forum more involved, but it never seems to work. There are very few who participate, which is a shame since an active forum is a truly great way to exchange a lot of thoughts about the game, and to learn from each others experience. Maybe some day people will participate more on here.
Thanks, and we don't have anything special planned. We won't miss many Deepstack Tournaments up at Choctaw, and I'm sure theres a trip to Cherokee in our future when they have a tournament series, but other than that we'll be planning on getting a bigger group together for WSOP 2010. The more the merrier! |
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I also enjoyed this thread. I had a couple of questions:
Quote: We go back and blinds are 75 /150. With 11x BB's I'm pretty much in Push / Fold territory. I win a couple pots when I push with AJ, and KQ and get no callers. Now I have enough chips to go back to playing poker. Player to my right raises to 450. I reraise to 1,100 and player in the small blind pushes all in and has me covered. Player to my right folds QQ. I call, and am thrilled to see him turn over AQ. A K on the flop. And he's drawing dead. I'm doubled up.
You didn't say what your hand was, I'm assuming AK?
Also, you finished 21st place out of 2,638 with a $1500 buy-in and "only" got paid $18k? I guess that sounds right, just seems like a long way to go to get only 12x in payback. I just wanted to make sure I followed the thread correctly and that this was all on the $1500 buy-in tourney.
Congrats on such a great finish. I'm impressed that we get to play "free poker" with someone who fared so well in a (for me) high-stakes tourney. |
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Shamrock wrote:
With blinds of 10K / 20K and ante's of 3k I have 265K left. I'm in the BB and look down at 88. Joe Simmons raises under the gun to 55K. I reraise all in and get snap called by Mike Eise. Joe Simmons goes in the tank for a bit, and then folds AQ. I've got my money in good against Mike's AK. I was a 55 / 45 favorite preflop. Way behind on the flop of 4s As Kc. I picked up a flush draw on the turn to improve my odds to 23 / 77. No spade or 8 on the river, and I'm done.
This one is a tough hand. Did you think about the odds before you went all-in? By that, I mean did you consider it to be a 55/45 hand?
I realize you already know this, but this is one of the very interesting things to me about poker. If you knew you were 55/45 and Eise knew he was 45/55, he still made a good call.
The math:
3k ante x 8 = 24k. Three players involved, so another 60k in the pot, plus probably the small blind at 10k (94k in the pot). Joe added 35k more for 129k in the pot. Since you're BB, Eise has already called the 35k raise, so the pot is 164k. I'm not sure if 265k is before or after the blind was posted, let's use after antes and blinds. That makes the pot 429k, and Eise has to put in 230k to win the 429k already in the pot.
Now is where I need help with pot odds. Is it 230k to win 429k or 230k to win 659k (the pot plus his bet)? Either way, what are his pot odds to call? Yeah, I should know this, but I'm getting confused. School me please. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:52 am |
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At this point of the game with 260K, and the blinds at 10K / 20K I was right on the edge of where my options are purely push or fold. With 13BB's left, and ante's eating away a portion of my stack each hand I'm looking for a hand to get all my chips in the middle with. If not as the favorite, then at least while I have some fold equity, which will allow a wide range of good hands to fold (which is why at some point you may have to push with any two cards, rather than get blinded out). Having played with Simmons before, I had seen him raise with some less than stellar hands, and then fold to any push back. What I hadn't counted on was Mike Eise waking up with a hand as strong as AK suited. From my standpoint, at this point in the game, I still make the same play knowing what I know now. How many more chances am I going to get while I still have a decent enough stack to fold others out?
That being said, Mike made a good call based on the pot odds (figured out below), even if he knew he was behind. I had to beleive the range of hands he put me on were any pocket pair, or a worse Ace than he had. Against the pocket pairs he's basically in a coin flip, unless I have AA or KK (then he's in trouble). If I have AK, we're looking to chop. If I have AQ or AJ, he has me dominated and he is way ahead. He's played enough hours with me over the past day and a half to polarize my range to those specific hands. The main point is we're coin flipping for my stack, not his. He's got me well covered. I'm actually a little surprised he just called my all-in, rather than pushing all-in over the top to isolate. That clearly would have been the better play by him, and I believe it was just an error on his part. He would have got all the chips in on the flop if Simmons had called.
In figuring the pot odds it depedns on whether you're looking for a ratio or a % as to how you calculate it. If you're looking for a ratio than the ratio would be 429K to 230K or slightly less than 2 to 1. If you're calculating the percentage you divide the bet you must call (230k) by the total that will be in the pot if you call the bet (659K). That being said he would be getting 34% pot odds. In order to profitably make that call he'd have to win a little better than 1 out of 3. If he figured rightly, that I had a pocket pair that was not AA or KK, then he's got the correct odds to call as a 45 / 55 dog. My guess is he didn't really consider what hand I had. With the heater he was on, and the fact that he had me covered 4 times over, and he had a very, very strong hand, he was calling whatever raise was made. If the roles were reversed I'd have made the call just like he did. I guess that's what makes poker a great game. Both players can make the correct play, and who wins is still up in the air. |
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| Shamrock |
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:39 am |
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Sorry I missed your previous post m1rs. Yes the hand I had was AK. I was thrilled to know the player to my right had folded QQ and the player I was in the hand with only really had one out. And once there was a K on the flop he was drawing dead to some wild str8 or 4 flush board.
Yeah the WSOP like most tourneys is heavily weighted to the top as far as payouts go. They do pay deep, 270 out of 2,638. Final 18 the jumps go every player until you end up with the winner cashing 639K.
Thanks for the congratulations. No need to be impressed. I learned Texas Hold'em about 4 years ago playing free bar poker, and still enjoy playing it. I've made some great friends (many of whom went to Vegas with us), and met Merlotgirl that way. |
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| just wanted to say i loved this thread. i felt like i was the one playing reading your semi-blog of this event. |
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